Wbt and Cbt

We have got a new assignement in groups now. Simon and Elena and I were discussing our topic today. We are supposed to find a way to explain the rest of the group what wbt and cbt is and how it works.

The definition is posted in the seminar wiki. You can find there (until now combined under the category cbt) what we worked out today. We compared the two, listed advanteages and disadvantages of each and talked about a way how to present them best to the group. We agreed on some form of interaction with good practice examples. I found two funny wbt on the net, but I guess they are not exactly showing the advantages of wbt. I included the link here anyhow for a good laugh.
japanese toilet training
japanese learning english
We will keep on looking for a more stuff on the topic. If you got any hints, please comment.

Update on seminar session


sorry, it has been a while since my last post. Time for an update.On Tuesday we shared our e-learning definitions and it became obvious that they are quite different. I guess it depends if you put the emphasis on the „e“ or on the“learning“ and another aspect Ralf included, which form of learning is meant – formal, informal or nonformal. Considering all these aspects we could get a huge range of definitions, decisive is the limitation. Yet I see the risk of an all including definitions which actually means nothing at all.

my picture - the sport`s group

still Task 2

The task this week is a never-ending one, so here comes Part 3 🙂

…Please name 2 Settings, Situations or Contents where eLearning is a good solution, in your opinion and why:

Situation 1: There is a system-update in the check-in program of an airline. It is including some minor changes in the handling, because of policy changes. The check-in personell is well tranied in the old program they just need to lear about the changes. E-Learning, maybe combined with providing an e-tutor would work perfectly in this case. Organizing in-class training would be an enormous effort. The personell comes from all over the world, rooms and teachers have to be provided and a substitution for the personell while they are on the seminar is required. The content is simply understandable, the personell can learn it by themselves.

Sitaution 2: theory of driving – If somebody is learning to drive he needs to know some rules about traffic and the basics of the car features and handlings. That would be an excellent thing to learn via e-Learning and would save the learner by the way a lot of time and money (unlike the theoretical lessons you need to take for a driver`s licence now in Germany). Now comming to the dririving lesson the learner could start driving right away without wasting time.

What do you thing? Do you agree? How about other settings? Interesting would also be a setting in which e-learnig is not a solution. Any ideas concerning that?

More on e-Learning

I continue with task 2 – my expectations from e-Learning.

I guess this is meant to be my expectations from e-Learning as a user. They match the advantages I see in e-Learning and I wil lcombine them here. The great thing about e-Learning – if it is done good – is that it is easy to handle, flexible to use concerning time, place and pace of the learner and using a variety of methods (podcasts, quizzes, slide-shows etc.)

Yet missing in the e-Learning setting is the personal contact. I could not imagine to do all my studies in a virtual university. I would miss the real-life talking and discussion (discussions on the web are not the same), drinking coffee and uncomfortable seats in the auditorium.

Tuesday was the first session of a circle-lecture/shared lecture or however it is called on the topic Media and Pedagogic. The first presentation was about the virtual campus of the University of Hamburg in Second Life. It was amazing to see what is possible in virtual settings and I believe it is a great chance for international lectures and discussions for example with people coming together from all over the world. Still I could not imagine it to be my only university. In my opinion too lonely.

Concluding e-Learning is a great addition to the class-room training (of course asm entioned before only if it is done good), but I do not think it will replace class-room training and real life discussions.


What is e-Learning

Hello again,

In my first post I wrote that I consider it difficult to find a clear definition of e-learning and that I was hoping to figure it out in the seminar session. Unfortunately we did not have the time to talk about it since our blogs and the ways to use and create them were keeping us. Now we are supposed to find a definition, we can approve, on our one. But I guess sharing them in our blogs and the wiki (you can find it on the blogroll) will help.

Maybe we can come up with a definiton which includes all our thoughts. I am just afraid that might lead to such a blurry definition you usely find on e-Learning. Great example on that problem are the definitions on the wiki. First one says „eLearning is a general term„, next “ eLearning is a catch-all term that covers a wide range“ and the third „improve the quality of learning by facilitating access to resources and services„. These quotes illustrate the lack of a clear definition in the discourse. Pretty much everything can be interpretated as e-Learning as far as it has „something to do with media“.
Following the definitions e-Learning might as well be ppt-presentation of a teacher held in front of the class. This is using electronic devices but is actually nothing else than (maybe well done) upfront-teaching.

I detected this wiki on the web, which I found useful on the topic. It shows the variety of e-Learning but is also lacking on a clear definition. In fact they admit there is no commenly accepted definition on e-Learning. wiki

Well, I guess, I will keep on looking for a definition I can accept. So far I have not run into one yet, but I will not give up searching.
I hope I can find some ideas on the other blogs or from your comments. So please help 🙂

Second seminar session

Today we met the second time for our seminar. Everyone of us had created a blog. I had seen some throughout the week. Quite exciting how different they are. I will include them on my blogroll.We talked a lot about how to use edublogs to get more of it, playing around with trackbacks and widgets. I got some hints how to work with the comments and trackbacks and will try that out. We also figured out how to personalize the page, but i guess that will require some more time.The next task is to find definitons of e-Learning and the way to use it.  I will take care of thst later on tonight. Have to run to the lecture now…Bye 



this is my first experience with blogging, so I feel a little weird and scared. Can I delete the stuff I wrote later on? I very much hope so.

We started off yesterday with the seminar „premesis of virtual learning“ and got the task to keep this blog updated throughout the time for reflection and sharing. I guess no one of us was too familiar with blogging so far and I am quite excited to see what everyone else writes.

First task – My experience with e-Learning:

My experiences with e-Learning are just emerging. I still have difficulties with the right definition of e-Learning. (I hope we will get some ideas about that in the seminar-session next week.) I did a CBT for xls and a WBT for 10-finger-writing – which I did not finish by the way – a few years ago.

Last year then I had a seminar for e-Learning concepts in adult education. It was, what you would call a blended learning seminar. We met in the beginning to get to know each other and the teacher introduced the tasks for the remaining time to us. We were supposed to meet online and keep a wiki on our themes, which were to be presented in the end. However, it did not work out too great and the wikis remained rather empty. Nethertheless I got an insight on e-Learning. I did a paper on e-learning in German companies. We discussed about media didactic ( also reading the book of Witt and Czerwionka) and a lot about Web 2.0. I must confess that I had no idea what Web 2.0 was before. Of course, I had been using Wikipedia and also had been looking in a forum and stuff, but I was just then grasping the whole idea of social software.

For the last six months I was doing an internship in a big, internationally operating company. I was in the departement which was responsible for the executive management development programs. Though the programs were mainly held in the traditional class-room form (personal networking is quite important for the participants) there were some e-Learning aspects involved. I was working on ideas how to integrate more e-Learning in the portfolio, not by changing the real life meetings into virtual meetings but by supporting communication and learning.